Dane Rudhyar on Art

by Jon Rappoport

June 21, 2022

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“Logic is a mirror of how the physical world operates. It is a vital tool. Imagination is the capacity to make new and different worlds, an unlimited number of them, which can operate on no particular basis at all.” (The Magician Awakes, Jon Rappoport)

Here is an interesting statement from Dane Rudhyar (1895-1985), about his painting. Rudhyar was a world-famous astrologer, and also a philosopher, painter, and composer.

“It does not seem important to me that people seeing my paintings should know what I felt, why and how I produced them. The essential thing is the viewers’ response — what the paintings do to them, what arises in them as a result of their seeing the paintings, of their relationship with the painting. It is, I believe, a matter of relationship: ‘something’ in the painting meets ‘something’ in the spectator; what is important is the character and quality of this meeting.”

“…These youths are also often greatly impressed by my paintings, yet at the same time they are puzzled by them. I am repeatedly asked what the paintings mean, how the evident symbols in them are to be understood…”

“When facing my paintings, a person’s reaction is often that I must have used such geometrical or biologically suggestive symbols deliberately, knowing exactly why I used them. People frequently are shocked when I tell them that I did not have precise intentions and did not think of traditional meanings. Then they often want to speak of ‘the Unconscious’ — my personal unconscious or the ‘collective Unconscious’…”

“They are even more puzzled if I tell them that they should forget the traditional system of knowledge and simply try to experience the drawing and allow it to speak to them and communicate a ‘mystery’ which perhaps transcends or has meaning besides the traditional knowledge.”

“Nearly twenty years ago while in Paris, I attended meetings and lectures at a well-publicized Congrés du symbolisme in the elegant and ultramodern UNESCO Building. At the close of the sessions I vividly realized that the lecturers always spoke of symbols in the past, referring almost exclusively to ancient cultural epochs and traditions. A very intelligent woman I had met who was enthusiastic about all that had taken place asked about my reaction to the Congress. I expressed my deep interest in the proceedings, but added that I felt the talks had been almost entirely, about the past. She looked at me with a puzzled expression and said, ‘But the past is all we know. We do not know the future!’ To which I replied, ‘Of course we do not know the future, but we are creating it!’ The lady gave me a strange look; she could not grasp the meaning of what I had said, and our conversation ended very soon.”

If you say the voyage of imagination is spiritual, people immediately want to know which spiritual system you are talking about, or which principles. They want art and creation to be an expression of that which is already understood.

But art is not a descriptive sign hanging on the entrance to the cosmos.

Every piece of art is its own cosmos.

It needs no myth structure or origin-story or cultural precedent.

Art is the great exception to every rule of the universe.

If this isn’t magic, nothing is.

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The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.

4 comments on “Dane Rudhyar on Art

  1. Paul says:

    He’s walked the miles
    Down many halls
    His eyes light
    On sunshines’ fall

    Cast an image
    Laid a plain
    Paint a statue
    Called down rain

    Forrest seasons
    Monday mirth
    Set sails mast-ward
    Cultured birth

    Burning eyes
    And tethered brow
    Shouldered mountain
    Locks allow

    If a call but answers thee
    What’s the promise
    Of hidden we.

    No magician
    But magic still
    Painting as
    A Wizard will.

  2. Occult Fan says:

    Jon, in brief, I’m absolutely thrilled to see Dane mentioned here. I will have more to say, but this is excellent, the mention and this insight. I signed up for your substack because of your most recent podcast, and THAT I will be propagating every which way, and will hopefully get it mentioned on No Agenda. I think it WILL be Evolutionary!

  3. Jimmy Jukebox says:

    This column about the painter reminded me of Alice Bailey and Her 10 Points.

    Then when the painter said We Are Creating The Future, It definitely reminded me of Alice Bailey and Her 10 Points specifically the point about Make Art Run Mad.

  4. Roundball Shaman says:

    “The essential thing is the viewers’ response — what the paintings do to them, what arises in them as a result of their seeing the paintings, of their relationship with the painting.”

    No two people in the history of the Universe see the World in the exact same way. Every person lives inside of a Universe of their own that They create. That they solely occupy.

    And so… no two people ever see a painting… or anything else… in exactly the same way. Each person sees a different painting. Each person has a different experience of it. Each person has created a mini-world of Viewer and Painting together. And each person gets a different meaning out of that experience.

    We see different shapes. Different colors. Different spaces. Different tiny details. Different entireties. Some of us see something and our mind goes racing off in some presupposed direction in our thinking. Others of us open our minds more… turn down our inner filters and judgments… and let more of the artist’s magic come through.

    “If you say the voyage of imagination is spiritual, people immediately want to know which spiritual system you are talking about…”

    The Spirit is not a system. No ‘system’ could define or contain Spirit.

    Once someone tries to turn ‘spirit’ into a spiritual ‘system’… there is no more Spirit there. Spirit has been cast out… and ‘System’ has been falsely rebranded as something it is not.

    We humans have to stop this awful habit of trying to force everything we encounter into tiny, pre-made human boxes of definition and expectations and codified limitations.

    You cannot contain Spirit in a box. You cannot contain Magic in a box.

    Time to throw the boxes out… and let Magic break free.

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