Rappoport interviewed

by Jon Rappoport

July 6, 2022

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What’s your view on disinformation?

I’m convinced I can spot it.

Are you tolerant when you do?

Of course not.

So you’re just as bad as the government.

Wrong. I’m not setting up a Board to censor disinformation.

You’re intolerant, yet tolerant.


You’re convinced you’re right, but you want to allow other people to be wrong.


Suppose you’re wrong about a piece of information?

Then I’m wrong. That doesn’t mean I want to be censored.

Why not? Suppose you have 9 million readers and all but one of them want you to be censored?

Then I’m writing to that one reader.

And you’d be satisfied with that?

Of course not.

And if the government wants to censor you?

I resist. We see what happens.

So you’re in favor of radical free speech?

Free speech isn’t radical. It’s free.

But you don’t highlight other people’s views in your writing.

Sure I do. I quote them.

But you rely on yourself.

Who else am I supposed to rely on?


If you mean people with degrees and official standing, then no. Unless they can prove their case.

Why doesn’t the New York Times quote you?

They don’t want to.

Why not?

You know, I’m friends with the managing editor of the Times.

You are?

Just the other day, we were having drinks together and he told me, “If we quoted you, Jon, our whole operation here would collapse.”

He said that?

He’s mentioned it more than once. I’ve suggested that the collapse of the Times would be a good thing. I would help him build from the ashes. He doesn’t seem to be interested.

Does he want to censor you?

He and his pals are censoring me right now.

What? What do you mean?

You’re only reading part of what I’m writing. Huge chunks disappear as I set them down on the page.

What do the chunks say?

If I rewrite them, they’ll vanish before you read them.

Are the chunks important?

They’re vital.

Maybe they should be censored.


If they think the chunks shouldn’t see the light of day…

You’ll never get a chance to decide.

Maybe I don’t care.

Or maybe you’re just lazy or scared.

I’m cautious about digesting information.

Information isn’t a pill, you know. You can look it over, read it, come to a conclusion yourself.

Right now, are you writing chunks that are disappearing?

Between my last two answers, three hours elapsed. I wrote 16 pages, and they vanished.

They were important?


Are you troubled by that?

I press on, regardless. Are you troubled?

Maybe a little. The idea of disappearing text—instantly disappearing—

That’s what censorship is.

I never get a chance to see it?

That’s what I’m telling you.

OK. I want the chance to see it.

You and millions of people want that chance to see and read what thousands of other people are writing and saying.

This is eerie. I don’t like it.

Why should you like it?

I have to go.


Back to my job.

What do you do?

I work for a company that wouldn’t like it if they knew I were talking to you.

What company is that?

I censor that chunk of information.

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Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.

4 comments on “Rappoport interviewed

  1. Paul says:

    Sweet irony.
    Or maybe something else.
    What that else may be ?
    Who could ever tell.

    Once In A LifeTime.

  2. Roundball Shaman says:

    What’s your view on disinformation?

    Everything is disinformation. We need to start right there. Guilty until proven innocent. Let the information prove its worthiness.

    You’re intolerant, yet tolerant.


    You’re convinced you’re right, but you want to allow other people to be wrong.

    Damn straight. You got your own Personal Ticket to this Life Ride and you can do whatever the hell you want with it. There’s an old song that goes, ‘Everybody’s got a Right to be Wrong.’

    Suppose you’re wrong about a piece of information?

    Then I’m… Right. Right to be wrong. I ain’t making you think like I do. You can believe whatever the hell you want. Just keep your mitts off what I choose to believe. It’s my Ticket, remember.

    And if the government wants to censor you?

    Of course the government wants to censor us. They possess the grandest Delusion of godhood that ever existed. And They are ‘right’ to have that… Their ticket. And I’m right to tell them to go straight to The Very Hot Place when They need to.

    But you rely on yourself.

    One more time: MY TICKET, remember?

    Why doesn’t the New York Times quote you?

    Because I would never let them. Why would I want to be quoted in a propaganda rag that pushes horse manure on a daily basis? I prefer not to be guilty by association. They already have loads of people without any morals and ethics to quote, anyway. And endless government and corporate press releases to peddle without remorse.

    That’s what censorship is.

    Everybody censors. Why would anyone want to just pass along everything that comes their way? Every stupid notion. Every dumb idea. Every meme designed to trick and gaslight and propagandize you into someone else’s dark agenda? They censor me… and I censor them. A fair trade.

    I never get a chance to see it?

    You won’t get that kind of nonsense from me.

    OK. I want the chance to see it.

    Fine. Go seek out the New York Times. They love people who have no discernment or ability to think for themselves. The Hive Mind. The Borg. Those who believe they are the Enlightened when They dwell in nothing but ignorance and darkness. And arrogant elitism.

    This is eerie. I don’t like it.

    You don’t have to. ‘YOUR TICKET’, remember?

    This is weird. You’re making me think. Think about things I never thought about before.

    That means you’ve reached that big fork in the road. Take the Freedom Road, and Worlds open up to you that you never knew existed. Take the Other Rode, and you are lost in darkness, forever.

    What if I can’t decide?

    You don’t have to. ‘YOUR TICKET’, remember?

  3. Sean says:

    I visit a family member. He thinks I should move to another country because I mention federal overreach. I say that is backward, I am for America not the communism that so many cherish here and probably do not even know they serving. So instead of moving to another country, I just leave.

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